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T O P I C R E V I E Wcharlie2 months ago I met a man. 11 years older than I. We REALLY did not like eachother at first but we kept bumping into eachother at the local pub. Short story: now we are like One and can barely spend more than 15 minutes away without missing the other person. And this is coming from someone who is a bordeliner and have serious serious issues with commitment..I am a Cancer Sun, Venus, Mercury and he is a Cancer Moon, Venus, Mars and Jupiter. He has his Sun in 5H and I have my Moon in 5H.We both feel as if the other one is an extension of our body and mind. My question, since I believe in fate and spirituality and angels, is: WHY did we see eachother constantly in pub but didn't get closer until 3 weeks prior to me leaving US which was to be for years?? I feel as if 1: it's a test to see if I can stay on the path back to Europe and ignore "temptations" or 2: it's a choice I have to make once and for all; stay in US or leave for good. I really truly feel this is the last time this option will be presented to me but I can't see the true signs.LionessThat's very interesting... Astrology wise you don't actually meet until the transit for both of you is in effect... If that makes Amy sense...On a higher level, you meet at at specific time for a specific reason... Yes maybe that is to have the experience, or maybe it's to make a decision... IMO... But either way sounds like an important time, relationship.. Possibly even karmic... Even if short lived....::::::::::::::::: I once had a situation... I watched this one guy in a bar for hours.. But he was dancing with this one girl all night, and never approached me...We finally met at the very end of the night... Coincidentally it was the exact moment of my solar return..Come to find out we went to 2 of the same high schools at the same time... But never met then... We met 8 years after high school...When we finally did met that night, it was because one of his friends recognized me from HS... Years later, he told me he was watching me that night... He said the girl he was dancing with "invited" him back to her place, but he said no, cuz he was trying to find a way to meet me... If he would have gone, we wouldn't have met...In short... Sometimes Shiz happens, and it takes a while We had a great summer romance... Until I found out he was a liar... LolAnyways 10 years later we reunited and now we are friends... FYI, this was the relationship , I had to go through before I met my husband, which was while I was seeing this guy...MsPrismI don't know for sure, Charlie but we'll need more of the story to try and figure it out.Are you sure that life isn't trying to show you a mirror image of yourself for some reason? Is there something you need to see about yourself through this person before you leave? When you think about going to Europe, do you get a feeling of rightness? When you think about staying with this person, do you get a feeling of rightness?charlie quote:Originally posted by MsPrism:I don't know for sure, Charlie but we'll need more of the story to try and figure it out.Are you sure that life isn't trying to show you a mirror image of yourself for some reason? Is there something you need to see about yourself through this person before you leave? When you think about going to Europe, do you get a feeling of rightness? When you think about staying with this person, do you get a feeling of rightness?staying with him would be like staying with myself and going to europe would be like staying with "Home". He is, i guess, an older version of me. what that means i dont know. FireMoonDo what feels right!! I remember you're a Scorpio NN, go with passion not planning charlie quote:Originally posted by FireMoon:Do what feels right!! I remember you're a Scorpio NN, go with passion not planning Passion would be him.charlie quote:Originally posted by MsPrism:I don't know for sure, Charlie but we'll need more of the story to try and figure it out.Are you sure that life isn't trying to show you a mirror image of yourself for some reason? Is there something you need to see about yourself through this person before you leave? When you think about going to Europe, do you get a feeling of rightness? When you think about staying with this person, do you get a feeling of rightness?So, I have been in Europe now for 2 weeks and thus away from him for 2 weeks. We have argued on phone every day since I left because neither of us really handle this distance well. Yesterday he said " I don't understand how 2 people can be SO good together and SO bad apart!"..I normally have NO issues with distance whatsoever. Going home to Europe was and is my "starting over" and I am also going back to face some demons I left 20 years ago but leaving Los Angeles meant that I also ran away from certain things there I had grown too tired dealing with so in a sense I gave up. He is 10 years older than I (47) and extremely wise and I look at him as a chance for me to step up my game to meet him at eye level. And he wants me there and is willing to push me but I also know that achieving that will be a painful journey for me as I will have to let go of my Ego in its entirety. I think our last conversation ended with him saying " I love you and want to spend the rest of my life with you but if you are not willing to meet me half-ways don't reach for my love anymore".I think about him every minute while awake, literally, and I know that he would be someone that I can proudly tell the world that "hey! this man makes me want to be a better human!". But now I am still here and he is still there and it proved quite quickly that distance is not for us. He would not be willing to move here as that process would be exhausting. Me having a dual citizenship will have no problems going anywhere but I feel as if I abandon all family members and friends that supported me when I finally decided to leave US. MoonblossomIMHO, your relationship with him sounds a bit co-dependent right off the jump. This is honeymoon phase, and already your energies are so in twined together that you could be missing the point of your return home, to focus on you. If he isn't willing to meet you halfway on your need to concentrate on making changes and amends for your own betterment then more arguments will come up. May I ask what you argue about? (Me: Taurus Sun, Pluto and Moon in Scorpio, Leo Rising, Aquarius NN)RandallWelcome!charlie quote:Originally posted by Moonblossom:IMHO, your relationship with him sounds a bit co-dependent right off the jump. This is honeymoon phase, and already your energies are so in twined together that you could be missing the point of your return home, to focus on you. If he isn't willing to meet you halfway on your need to concentrate on making changes and amends for your own betterment then more arguments will come up. May I ask what you argue about? (Me: Taurus Sun, Pluto and Moon in Scorpio, Leo Rising, Aquarius NN)We argue about everything!! Literally. I couldn't even begin to pick one thing because it's just endless. Now I just realized, in the oddest way, that just MAYBE him and I are SO similar that I see him as me and that makes it me that is trying to pull myself back to LA out of some fear I have of being here...hmmm
I am a Cancer Sun, Venus, Mercury and he is a Cancer Moon, Venus, Mars and Jupiter. He has his Sun in 5H and I have my Moon in 5H.
We both feel as if the other one is an extension of our body and mind.
My question, since I believe in fate and spirituality and angels, is: WHY did we see eachother constantly in pub but didn't get closer until 3 weeks prior to me leaving US which was to be for years?? I feel as if 1: it's a test to see if I can stay on the path back to Europe and ignore "temptations" or 2: it's a choice I have to make once and for all; stay in US or leave for good.
I really truly feel this is the last time this option will be presented to me but I can't see the true signs.
On a higher level, you meet at at specific time for a specific reason... Yes maybe that is to have the experience, or maybe it's to make a decision... IMO...
But either way sounds like an important time, relationship.. Possibly even karmic... Even if short lived....::::::::::::::::: I once had a situation... I watched this one guy in a bar for hours.. But he was dancing with this one girl all night, and never approached me...
We finally met at the very end of the night... Coincidentally it was the exact moment of my solar return..Come to find out we went to 2 of the same high schools at the same time... But never met then... We met 8 years after high school...When we finally did met that night, it was because one of his friends recognized me from HS...
Years later, he told me he was watching me that night... He said the girl he was dancing with "invited" him back to her place, but he said no, cuz he was trying to find a way to meet me... If he would have gone, we wouldn't have met...
In short... Sometimes Shiz happens, and it takes a while
We had a great summer romance... Until I found out he was a liar... LolAnyways 10 years later we reunited and now we are friends... FYI, this was the relationship , I had to go through before I met my husband, which was while I was seeing this guy...
Are you sure that life isn't trying to show you a mirror image of yourself for some reason? Is there something you need to see about yourself through this person before you leave?
When you think about going to Europe, do you get a feeling of rightness?
When you think about staying with this person, do you get a feeling of rightness?
quote:Originally posted by MsPrism:I don't know for sure, Charlie but we'll need more of the story to try and figure it out.Are you sure that life isn't trying to show you a mirror image of yourself for some reason? Is there something you need to see about yourself through this person before you leave? When you think about going to Europe, do you get a feeling of rightness? When you think about staying with this person, do you get a feeling of rightness?
staying with him would be like staying with myself and going to europe would be like staying with "Home". He is, i guess, an older version of me. what that means i dont know.
quote:Originally posted by FireMoon:Do what feels right!! I remember you're a Scorpio NN, go with passion not planning
Passion would be him.
So, I have been in Europe now for 2 weeks and thus away from him for 2 weeks. We have argued on phone every day since I left because neither of us really handle this distance well. Yesterday he said " I don't understand how 2 people can be SO good together and SO bad apart!"..I normally have NO issues with distance whatsoever.
Going home to Europe was and is my "starting over" and I am also going back to face some demons I left 20 years ago but leaving Los Angeles meant that I also ran away from certain things there I had grown too tired dealing with so in a sense I gave up.
He is 10 years older than I (47) and extremely wise and I look at him as a chance for me to step up my game to meet him at eye level. And he wants me there and is willing to push me but I also know that achieving that will be a painful journey for me as I will have to let go of my Ego in its entirety.
I think our last conversation ended with him saying " I love you and want to spend the rest of my life with you but if you are not willing to meet me half-ways don't reach for my love anymore".
I think about him every minute while awake, literally, and I know that he would be someone that I can proudly tell the world that "hey! this man makes me want to be a better human!".
But now I am still here and he is still there and it proved quite quickly that distance is not for us. He would not be willing to move here as that process would be exhausting. Me having a dual citizenship will have no problems going anywhere but I feel as if I abandon all family members and friends that supported me when I finally decided to leave US.
(Me: Taurus Sun, Pluto and Moon in Scorpio, Leo Rising, Aquarius NN)
quote:Originally posted by Moonblossom:IMHO, your relationship with him sounds a bit co-dependent right off the jump. This is honeymoon phase, and already your energies are so in twined together that you could be missing the point of your return home, to focus on you. If he isn't willing to meet you halfway on your need to concentrate on making changes and amends for your own betterment then more arguments will come up. May I ask what you argue about? (Me: Taurus Sun, Pluto and Moon in Scorpio, Leo Rising, Aquarius NN)
We argue about everything!! Literally. I couldn't even begin to pick one thing because it's just endless. Now I just realized, in the oddest way, that just MAYBE him and I are SO similar that I see him as me and that makes it me that is trying to pull myself back to LA out of some fear I have of being here...hmmm
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